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Season's done, it's a bust, and if we're gonna bitch about next year let's do it in the right thread.

All figures taken from https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

As things stand;

? - Matthews - Nylander

Hyman - Tavares - ?

Marleau - Kadri - Brown

Petan - Gauthier - Moore

 

Rielly - ?

Muzzin - Zaitsev

Dermott - Rosen

 

Andersen

Sparks

 

Including the retained Kessel salary and excluding Horton, this gives us a cap-hit of $69.7m ($69,659,699).

Next year's cap is expected (but not guaranteed) to be $83m, which means our projected cap-space is $13.34m

 

RFAs - Marner, Johnsson, Kapanen, Ozhiganov

UFAs - Ennis, Gardiner, Hainsey, Marincin

 

Zaitsev in the top-4. Needs a top-pairing RHD. Marner, Kapanen and Johnsson will cost, conservatively, a combined $17m. No spare forwards or D.

$13.34m to spend on roughly $30m worth of players.

So as much as I hate to agree with uteck for the second time in as many days, Dubas is fucked.

We're fucked. 

Edited by King of Dick Mountain

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Nah, we’ll be fine.

Depending on how the play offs go (first round sweep?) a lot will be clear after.

one of willy or Marner will have to go for a top rhd. Im leaning towards willy being traded over marner, because well... marner > willy..

if leafs however manage to get past boston and for some weird, totally impossible, reason win the cup a lot will be different of course.

Edited by brocto

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So do any of you care to explain how we're fitting Marner, Kapanen, Johnsson, two injury fill-ins and a top-pairing D into $13.4m?

And if you manage that, you still have Zaitsev playing in the top-4.

Or do you just want to pretend the problem doesn't exist?

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20 minutes ago, King of Dick Mountain said:

So do any of you care to explain how we're fitting Marner, Kapanen, Johnsson, two injury fill-ins and a top-pairing D into $13.4m?

And if you manage that, you still have Zaitsev playing in the top-4.

Or do you just want to pretend the problem doesn't exist?

The problem only exists if the Leafs are no longer allowed to make any trades going forward

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Worried about different things right now. That's a bridge to cross when we get there.

In the meantime, I'm just hoping this display of "hockey" in the past month is a learning experience that will actually help in the playoffs.

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58 minutes ago, Puq said:

The problem only exists if the Leafs are no longer allowed to make any trades going forward

Tavares- nmc

matthews- won’t be traded

marner- won’t be traded

rielly- won’t be traded

freddie - won’t be traded

Nylander- promised NTC 

marleau - nmc 

pretty much leaves Kadri and the highly undesirable zaitsev

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1 hour ago, Puq said:

The problem only exists if the Leafs are no longer allowed to make any trades going forward

Right, right.

I forgot that other teams are just tripping over themselves to give us their best, cheapest stars in return for our old, overpaid (or both) shit. Silly me.

Problem handwaved away.

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Who ought to trade

Marleau- He's a damn near 7 million dollar team dad. He's got experience and is good in the locker room. But his ice time has been dropping all year. You do your best to trade him to Arizona

Zaitsev- Need i say more?

Gardiner- I say trade,  I hope it's not an outright just drop, but who knows? Not that I don't value what he brings just welcome to the numbers game and he's a prime candidate for a hockey trade in a package deal. Sandin doesn't replace him, but it sounds like buddy is getting a 

Brown- You have to do more than just be good on the PK

 

 

Who we've got to trade (Not that we HAVE or even want to move them but deals a deal)

Kadri- Selling a little low, but he's been emotionally dead this year, and barely a factor on the PP. Still quietly productive and enticing for the trade market with his contract. 

Nylander- Dubas said he won't, we'd be selling low....but buddy could get you a good D man in a swap.

One of Kappy/Johnsson-pick your favourite and get depth.

 

What we need.

Top pairing RHD

meaningful middle 6 grit

Probably a back up goalie. 

 

 

Make a name for yourself, Dubas

Edited by HBCYG

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25 minutes ago, uteck said:

Tavares- nmc

matthews- won’t be traded

marner- won’t be traded

rielly- won’t be traded

freddie - won’t be traded

Nylander- promised NTC 

marleau - nmc 

pretty much leaves Kadri and the highly undesirable zaitsev

Time will tell.

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14 minutes ago, Armster said:

Hainsey is cheap but perhaps we can fill that role with even cheaper from below.  Dubas is going to have to be shrewd as fuck no doubt with how he handles this but

He's a player coach at this point is all. Take a major pay cut and a part time spot in the press box or give the spot to someone else. 

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18 minutes ago, King of Dick Mountain said:

Hainsey should be allowed to walk. 

He should be escorted off the premises, if necessary.

??

 

Hainsy has been really good this season.

 

granted he shouldn’t be made to play top pair, but he has done very well imo.

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1 hour ago, King of Dick Mountain said:

Right, right.

I forgot that other teams are just tripping over themselves to give us their best, cheapest stars in return for our old, overpaid (or both) shit. Silly me.

Problem handwaved away.

I think you aren’t giving this teams assets enough credit.

 

so if it goes the way you suggest and nothing can be done and the Leafs are doomed to keep all thes players they can’t afford.... what are you suggesting will happen?

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1 hour ago, HBCYG said:

He's a player coach at this point is all. Take a major pay cut and a part time spot in the press box or give the spot to someone else. 

I wouldn’t actually oppose to that. He’s looked significantly better playing bottom six minutes.

You can probably count out Marincin (hopefully) and Oz being back next year too.

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SO everyone wants Marinshit, Ozzy, Zaitsev, Gadriner and Hainsey gone? So Rielly and Muzzin can do the job of 6 defencemen, good good. And to boot you want Willie, Marleau, Kadri, All of the 4th line UFA's and Sparks gone? Tell me we ain't gonna rape the Marlies to replace all that? Do you honestly think we are gonna get better than what we subtracted with trades and FA acquisitions? In order to get better we have to give up more than we have listed here so i guess we go for broke and deplete our cupboards for the greater good?

Edited by Anger Management

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12 minutes ago, Anger Management said:

SO everyone wants Marinshit, Ozzy, Zaitsev, Gadriner and Hainsey gone? So Rielly and Muzzin can do the job of 6 defencemen, good good. And to boot you want Willie, Marleau, Kadri, All of the 4th line UFA's and Sparks gone? Tell me we ain't gonna rape the Marlies to replace all that? Do you honestly think we are gonna get better than what we subtracted with trades and FA acquisitions? In order to get better we have to give up more than we have listed here so i guess we go for broke and deplete our cupboards for the greater good?

Yes, that's exactly what has been said. You've captured the essence of everything perfectly. 

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9 hours ago, Anger Management said:

SO everyone wants Marinshit, Ozzy, Zaitsev, Gadriner and Hainsey gone? So Rielly and Muzzin can do the job of 6 defencemen, good good. And to boot you want Willie, Marleau, Kadri, All of the 4th line UFA's and Sparks gone? Tell me we ain't gonna rape the Marlies to replace all that? Do you honestly think we are gonna get better than what we subtracted with trades and FA acquisitions? In order to get better we have to give up more than we have listed here so i guess we go for broke and deplete our cupboards for the greater good?

What the hell do you think the purpose of the Marlies is for?

Also, don’t pretend Marincin, Oz, Sparks, Marleau, and Zaitsev aren’t hard to replace when they’re all shit.

Edited by Morrison7

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